【鍵盤俠】湖人等隊有意羅斯

[Haynes] Yahoo Sources: Los Angeles Lakers, Philadelphia 76ers among teams that have expressed interest in trading for Detroit Pistons star Derrick Rose.

據NBA名記Chris Haynes報道，消息人士透露，湖人、76人等隊有意通過交易得到活塞球星羅斯。

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[–]76ers dleonard1122 567 指標 9小時前

What would we even give up?

76人球迷：那咱能放棄誰？

[–][BOS] Marcus Smart airmagswag 28 指標 9小時前

Thybulle Embiid and horford

凱爾特人球迷：塞布爾、恩比德和霍福德

[–]76ers _FroJo_ 451 指標 9小時前

Zhaire/picks. We have plenty of 2nds, thats usually what these midseason acquisitions cost

76人球迷：扎伊爾-史密斯和選秀簽啊。我們有大把的二輪簽，這一般都是用于賽季中期交易的

[–]76ers dleonard1122 24 指標 9小時前

I ll approve it

76人球迷：我同意

[–]Pistons pharaohs_pharynx 24 指標 8小時前

The pistons definitely won t...

活塞球迷：我們肯定不答應啊……

[–]Pistons XolorJZ 46 指標 9小時前

Damn so our best player’s worth nothing

活塞球迷：靠，所以是不把我們最好的球員當回事？

[–]Pistons pharaohs_pharynx 69 指標 8小時前

Fun fact: we re not making that deal. These 76er fans crazy man

活塞球迷：有意思的是，我們不會做這個買賣的。這幫76人蜜真是瘋了

[–]Pistons MWiatrak2077 29 指標 8小時前

I love how they think we re just cool accepting total garbage for Rose. Like c mon lmao, we re not taking late seconds for someone who could save your offense.

活塞球迷：他們居然覺得我們會接受那幫垃圾來換羅斯，真是秀逗了。拜托啊，羅斯可是能拯救76人進攻的人物，我們是不會接受那種末位二輪簽的

[–]Wizards The_Last_Melon14 241 指標 9小時前

Man that’s a depressing haul. I guess if you gotta blow it up it’s better than nothing

奇才球迷：76人球迷那個方案真是不尊重人搶劫。你要是想搞砸交易，那干脆啥也不給唄。

[–]Knicks NovaKash 184 指標 8小時前*

For 5 months of a backup PG that s not a depressing haul at all. Teams don t usually shell out first-round picks for rentals of a bench player

尼克斯球迷：對于一個使用時間五個月的替補控衛來說，76人那籌碼根本就不是搶劫啊。很多球隊一般都不會為了租用一個板凳球員而送出首輪簽吧。

[–]Timberwolves PFhelpmePlan 124 指標 7小時前

for rentals of a bench player

DRose ain t exactly your typical bench player.

森林狼球迷：“租用一個板凳球員”

羅斯還真不是你以為的板凳球員

[–]76ers DJToastyBuns 16 指標 4小時前

I ve watched maybe 40 T Wolves games since jimmy. That s a steal for DRose, who really seems to have put it all together

76人球迷：巴特勒去森林狼過后，我看了大概40場森林狼比賽。要是能用扎伊爾-史密斯和二輪簽換到羅斯，那真是賺了，他貌似真的找回感覺了。

[–]Spurs Bandwagon dandangles 35 指標 7小時前

They’ve been limiting his minutes until recently for some reason. He’s been starting at PG and the Pistons have been doing better with him starting. He played 34 mins today, he’s only 31.. I believe the man still has a ton of tank left and can handle starter minutes.

馬刺球迷：因為某些原因，活塞之前一直都限制著羅斯的出場時間。他近期一直是打首發控衛，而且他首發之后，活塞的表現更好。他今天就打了34分鐘啊，而且他才31……我相信他油箱里還有很多油，而且能夠勝任首發。

[–]Timberwolves PFhelpmePlan 22 指標 7小時前

Sixers fan in here be like DRose is a bench player he s barely worth a late second . Meanwhile DRose is a legit 6MOY candidate and could easily be starting if he could play 32-35 mins.

森林狼球迷：這里有些76人球迷說“羅斯就是個板凳球員，他也就一個末位二輪簽”，可實際呢，要是羅斯能打上32-35分鐘，那他真能成為最佳第六人的候選人，也能輕松擠進首發

[–]Business-is-Boomin 9 指標 7小時前

I don t question his worth, but with Simmons playing 40+ every night, I don t see the value in trading for him.

我倒是不質疑他的價值，不過西蒙斯每晚都打40多分鐘了，不知道交易羅斯的價值在哪兒

[–]Lakers badpizzaisstillgood 89 指標 9小時前

I have an even better question, what would we even give up?

湖人球迷：我有個更好的問題，要是我湖想得到羅斯得送出誰？

[–]Lakers spyirl 158 指標 8小時前

NBA Champion, 4x all-star, 3x all-defense, 2x NBA finalist, 1x all-nba star guard Rajon Rondo.

湖人球迷：NBA冠軍、4次入選全明星、三次入選賽季最佳防守陣、兩次進入總決賽、一次全明星的后衛隆多！

[–]Pistons atucker1744 14 指標 5小時前

LeBron and AD for D Rose, take it or leave it

活塞球迷：拿老詹和戴維斯換羅斯，不然甭談。

[–]Pistons ImTheOldManJenks 605 指標 9小時前

We’ll do it for LeBron. Seems fair to me.

活塞球迷：我們可以用羅斯換詹姆斯啊，我覺著挺合理的

[–]droseandmyfather 36 指標 8小時前

that’ll definitely fix all that skepticism i’ve been reading about Derricks on-court fit with Lebron

之前不是有文章說過羅斯在場上和老詹不搭嘛，這下肯定能解決所有的懷疑。

[–]Nbaseattle_Scones 323 指標 9小時前

MVP for an MVP.

這是MVP互換啊

[–]Raptors IWantRaceCar 74 指標 7小時前

1 mvp for 4 mvps. This would be the best trade in the history of trade deals, maybe ever. Believe me.

猛龍球迷：1個MVP換4個MVP。要真成了，那就是史上最精明交易了。

[–][GSW] Kevon Looney jakepdennis 20 指標 5小時前

If the lakers add a second rounder I think the pistons would accept possibly

勇士球迷：要是湖人再加個二輪簽，那我覺得活塞會很快答應的。

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[–]Spurs thehumblebeast 112 指標 9小時前

I, too, have expressed interest in trading for Derrick Rose

馬刺球迷：我個人也表達了希望通過交易得到羅斯的意愿！

[–]solbrand 401 指標 8小時前

We all need this. D Rose needs a ring.

咱們都想看到這筆交易。羅斯需要一枚戒指！

[–]Sircartier_24k 79 指標 8小時前*

Facts bro. As a fan it s been tough these past two seasons seeing him play great basketball again for losing teams. Seeing drose with a real shot at a title would be great.

And the last time he had a legitimate chance in the playoffs (2015) he was great in those bucks and cavs series

大實話啊老哥。作為球迷，看到他最近兩個賽季在爛隊再次打出了以前的高光，還挺難受的。要是羅斯能有真正的爭冠機會那就太好了。

上次他真正有機會在季后賽殺出重圍還是在2015年，當時他在面對雄鹿和騎士的系列賽里表現非常搶眼。

[–]EricKillMongerz 386 指標 8小時前

Kuz Slim Shady Kuzma coming soon to Detroit

“痞子”庫茲馬馬上要去底特律咯！

[–]Teukkabasketball 148 指標 8小時前

This would be funny as hell

那可就太帶勁兒了

[–]Bladex20 156 指標 9小時前

D Rose and Lebron 2.0?

羅斯和詹姆斯合作2.0？

[–]Wizards bonez288 12 指標 8小時前

If that works out it really will make it even more obvious how much of a mess Cleveland was that last year Lebron carried them

奇才球迷：要是他倆在一起真擦出了火花，那就更凸顯出了，當初老詹最后一年扛著走的那支克利夫蘭有多爛。

[–]I_heart_tight_vags69 2291 指標 9小時前

Imagine having DRose, Lebron, Rondo, and Dwight on the same team 8 years ago

試想一下，要是八年前羅斯、老詹、隆多和霍華德在一個隊會是怎樣

[–]Mavericks donte_divencenzo 137 指標 9小時前

75+ wins... add prime Bradley and boogie for fun

獨行俠球迷：75勝往上啊……再加上巔峰布拉德利和考神圖個樂

[–]NBA Guoldisney 98 指標 8小時前

Shit, totally forgot about boogie wtf.

靠，我特么都忘了湖人還有個考辛斯

[–]MJplayedmechanics 169 指標 9小時前

Collison would be a better fit for LA tbh

講真，比起羅斯，科里森應該會更適合湖人

[–][LAC] Chris Paul nebmershaq 85 指標 9小時前

Agree, Collison is a better shooter and LeBron + Shooters is automatically good

快船球迷：同意，科里森是個更好的投手，而老詹搭投手一般都能成

[–]MJplayedmechanics 41 指標 9小時前

He s also really good at running PnR

而且科里森真的很擅長指揮擋拆

[–]Jazz CICERO9K 74 指標 9小時前

That s not a surefire thing though and some say Collison will only sign post trade deadline

爵士球迷：不過這事兒也不是十拿九穩啊，還有人說科里森只會在交易截止日之后簽約

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 36 指標 8小時前

Maybe the FO has been in contact with him, I feel like if he’s actually coming back he’s just working himself back to game shape after being out for months

湖人球迷：或許我湖管理層一直在和科里森接觸，我感覺他真的要復出，現在這會兒正努力恢復比賽身材，畢竟好幾個月沒打球了。

[–]Heat KniGht1st 17 指標 8小時前

Lakers have almost no asset to trade, they have to give up Kuz. Betting on Collison is risky, Clippers can land him too.

熱火球迷：湖人追羅斯的話幾乎沒啥資本，不然就得放棄庫茲馬。賭科里森還是有風險，快船也能簽下他。

[–]Lakers chad12341296 36 指標 9小時前

Lakers need someone who can actually score and get the ball to AD when Lebron is off the court, D Rose would do that better than Collison

湖人球迷：我湖需要的是那種能得分，而且在老詹下場時能給濃眉喂球的人，這樣看的話，羅斯比科里森好些。

[–]kobmug_v2 62 指標 9小時前*

The Lakers are 34-8, any trade they re making right now is not for the regular season but for the playoffs therefore we should approach any trade evaluation with the assumption that LeBron is on the court for at least 42 minutes per game.

I am far more interested in a player who is capable of running things for the 6 minutes that LeBron sits and can help out in the 42 minutes he doesn t than I am in a player whose value is wholly concentrated in the 6 minutes LeBron sits. For that reason I like Collison better than Rose.

When I look for players to add you have to bring both shooting and plus defense to the table, Rose brings neither and the role he plays right now in Detroit will only be available for a maximum of 6 minutes per game in the playoffs.

湖人現在34勝8負，他們現在進行的任何交易都不是為了常規賽，而是季后賽，因此咱們在評估任何交易價值的時候，都得有個前提：老詹場均至少會出場42分鐘。

比起一個只能在老詹下場的那6分鐘打出全部價值的球員，我更感興趣的，是那種那6分鐘能有所作為、同時在另外42分鐘也能幫老詹分擔的球員，所以我更喜歡科里森。

我在考慮新援時，必須得把投射和防守加以考量，羅斯兩者都沒，至于說他現在在底特律扮演的角色，要是到了湖人，在季后賽他最多只有6分鐘表現時間。

[–]Lakers chad12341296 23 指標 8小時前

You gotta consider though that Lebron has also flourished playing with guards that dominate the ball, Lebron has been perfectly fine with a taking turns kind of offense with Kyrie/DWade.

Having another elite ball handler to take advantage of an offense centered around spacing would open up a lot of options offensively and I think the team would be in much better shape on offense.

那你還得考慮的是，老詹在和那些支配球的后衛一起打球時，也能打得得心應手。老詹以前和歐文、韋德打那種“你打完我打”的進攻時，一直都很順啊。

要是湖人場上再多一名頂級的持球人，那就能在進攻端增加多種選擇，我覺得那樣的湖人進攻時會強很多。

[–]kobmug_v2 27 指標 8小時前

The thing is Kyrie was a far better shooter than Rose, to the point that it s not even worth comparing.

As for Wade, in his first two years in Miami he was also a far better player than Rose is now and in his last two years when his decline began in earnest the Heat were often at their best without Wade on the court. LeBron + 4 shooters is what led the famous 2013 game 6 comeback with JVG openly wondering whether they should even play Wade at all in overtime.

If you re going to be a non-shooter next to LeBron you need to be like 2011 2012 Wade and Rose is not.

問題是歐文和老詹搭檔時比現在的羅斯強太多了，甚至都沒法比。

至于說韋德，他在邁阿密的頭兩年也比現在的羅斯強很多，最后兩年他才真正開始下滑，他不在場時熱火的進攻常常能打出最佳效果。老詹配四射才導致了13年那場著名的G6逆轉，這才有了范甘迪公開質疑加時賽里韋德到底還有沒有出場的必要。

如果想給老詹配一個非射手球員，那得是11、12年的韋德才行，現在的羅斯不行。

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[–]Garden_Gnome_Child 72 指標 9小時前

Imagine winning a ring with the team that he tore his ACL against.

要是羅斯去了那支當初他韌帶撕裂那場比賽的對手球隊，還奪冠了，那可就有意思了

[–]Lakers Lufs10 13 指標 7小時前

Realistically speaking, how high are Sixers chances against Bucks?

湖人球迷：實事求是地說啊，76人面對雄鹿有多高的勝算？

[–]Bucks OutsideTheServiceBox 22 指標 7小時前

If they meet us on equal footing and fully-healthy, very solid. I don’t know if I’d call them favorites, but I also wouldn’t say the Bucks are favored either. Philly was built to basically beat the Bucks. They long, their bigs can shoot, and they defend extremely well.

雄鹿球迷：要是他們能全員健康地和我們干，那勝算不小的。我會不會把他們看成是取勝熱門不好說，不過我也不會覺得雄鹿是熱門。76人這隊基本就是為了打雄鹿而建的。他們有身高臂展，內線能投，防守也極強。

[–]Pistons salmon10 3 指標 6小時前

I love Rose, but he deserves to be on a contender. Lakers preferably. But please let him represent the Pistons in the Allstar game first

活塞球迷：我愛羅斯，不過他應該去一支爭冠球隊。更傾向是湖人吧。不過還是先讓他代表活塞打全明星吧

[–]Bulls MakeDroseGreatAgain 103 指標 9小時前

Do not wanna see Rose and Lebron on the same team again fuck that

公牛球迷：我還不想再看到羅斯和詹姆斯在同一個隊了，操蛋

[–]Venezuela ddottay 83 指標 9小時前

LeBron stans and Rose stans will be threatening to kill each other by the WCF

委內瑞拉球迷：羅斯要是去了湖人，那到了西決的時候，詹蜜和羅蜜怕是會惡語相向。

[–]Lakers spyirl 83 指標 8小時前

Why? Rose stans want Rose to get a ring.

湖人球迷：為啥啊？羅斯鐵粉也希望他拿戒指啊

[–]Venezuela ddottay 19 指標 8小時前

Rose having the ball in his hands a lot less = less production from him which is a battle waiting to happen

委內瑞拉球迷：羅斯持球大量減少=輸出減少，這不就是等著開噴嘛

[–][CHI] Taj Gibson black_asian 51 指標 8小時前

I m sure rose will be leading the 2nd unit. not taking away the ball from lebron

公牛球迷：我相信羅斯要是去了湖人會帶領第二陣容的，他又不會搶老詹球權。

[–]Bulls amity_ 15 指標 8小時前

It will still be hard to stomach for any bulls fan around during Rose years, when LeBron single handedly kept us from a title. But I do hope he gets one, even better if he s a significant contributor. When he went to Cleveland he was still struggling and a lot of us thought he was ring chasing.

公牛球迷：當初羅斯在公牛的時候，老詹一己之力讓我們無緣總決賽，這對公牛球迷來說仍然是無法釋懷的。不過我真的希望羅斯拿個冠軍，要是他能做出重要貢獻，那就更好了。之前他去克利夫蘭打得很艱難，我們很多人還覺得他是去蹭冠的。

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