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Jerry West on Luka: I ve been around a long time, and I ve seen a lot of special players.. There s a difference between All-Stars superstars. A superstar is different, and that s what he is.. He ll be the best player that Dallas has ever had. I have great respect for Nowitzki, but Dirk is not him

杰里-韋斯特近日在談到東契奇時表示：“我在聯盟打拼了很長時間，看過很多非凡的球員。全明星球員和超級巨星是大有區別的。超巨是與眾不同的，東契奇就是這樣。他會成為達拉斯史上最強的球員。我非常尊重諾維茨基，不過他還不是東契奇這種球員?！?/p>

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[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant hbt15 1063 指標 22小時前

It’s very early on in his career but I’m not sure anyone could disagree with West at the moment. Long long long way to go but all the signs are there.

湖人球迷：他的職業生涯才剛剛開始，不過我不確定眼下會不會有人反對韋斯特的看法。東契奇要走的路還有很長很長，不過所有的跡象都已經有了。

[–][DAL] Nick Van Exel pm_me_books_you_like 47 指標 21小時前

At this point, its not signs. Barring catastrophic injury, he’s an all time great. He’s playing better than most HOF’ers in their prime and he’s 20 ffs. He could stay at his current level for a normal career healthwise, and he’ll go down as an all timer.

獨行俠球迷：就目前來看，這都不是跡象了。假如東契奇沒有遭遇那種重大傷病，那他就能成為歷史頂尖球員。他目前的表現比大多名人堂成員的巔峰期還強，而且他才20歲。或許他整個生涯都是目前這種水準，那樣的話，他也能步入歷史頂尖行列。

[–][PHO] Steve Nash yuhanz 31 指標 21小時前

The stats show it. Success from euroleague shows it. Eye tests shows it.

Are we sure he’s less than 22y/o??? Probably the only questionable thing right now /s

太陽球迷：他的數據表明了他的天賦。他在歐洲聯賽的成就表明了這一點，這是肉眼可見的。

咱們確實他還不到22歲嘛？？？或許這是現在唯一讓人質疑的（狗頭）

[–]Lakers daveed1297 891 指標 21小時前

Let s be honest. If he never improved and just did this for the next 15 years that would be NUTS

湖人球迷：咱們實事求是地說，如果他以后沒有任何進步，接下來15年就現在這種表現，那也是很厲害的。

[–]Raptors JevvyMedia 19 指標 19小時前

True, he could literally never improve and be a HOFer. He just needs some playoff victories and a 5-year stretch of consistency (his Euro career will boost his HOF chances).

猛龍球迷：確實，哪怕他一直就這個水平，也會進入名人堂。只需要一些季后賽的成績，和一個五年期的穩定表現（他的歐洲生涯會提高他進入名人堂的概率）就行。

[–]Throwaway98765432abc 303 指標 21小時前

Holy shit imagine him getting better.

Honestly, what are the flaws? What does he add at this point? The most basic and obvious answer is the intangible efficiency, but like how would he achieve that?

Shot selection? Increased athleticism? More jumpers in the gym?

我勒個去，要是他變得更強那還得了。

有一說一，他的短板在哪？現在的他還需要加強哪些方面？最基本和最明顯的答案是看不見的效率，不過他怎么才能高效起來呢？

投籃選擇？提升運動能力？多練練跳投？

[–]lucayala 539 指標 21小時前

conditioning, shot selection, 3pt%, defense, better decision making (yes, he s still a 20yo kid and he makes 20yo mistakes). but yeah, it s scary. a 20yo second year player at MVP level. where is the limit?

體能、投籃選擇、三分命中率、防守、更好的決策（對，他還是個20歲的孩子，也會犯20來歲的錯誤）。不過也是，這太嚇人了。一個20歲的二年級生打出了MVP的水準。他的極限在哪兒？

[–]Nets TheRealSlimReaper35 121 指標 21小時前

Surpassing michael jordan

籃網球迷：超越喬丹。

[–]AlHorfordHighlights 173 指標 21小時前

Defense is probably the main one. He s a solid help defender but not the quickest on the ball

防守也許是他主要的短板。他的協防還可以，不過對持球人防守的速度還不夠快。

[–]dufduffudfudfuck 103 指標 20小時前

This is pretty much the opposite of the truth lol. He s not a bad 1 on 1 guy, but when off-ball movement gets involved he struggles, alot of it is just a mental thing I thin though.

Luka is a very streaky shooter (from 3), turnover prone, fatigues easily, and has struggled in the clutch this year. I also think he could develop a shot-he-can-always-get-off that isn t the step back three, lest he suffer the same late game play off woes as Harden. He s got plenty of room to grow.

你這基本說反了。他的1對1單防并不差，不過要是遇上對手的無球輪轉，他就頭大了，不過我覺得這主要就是意志力問題。

東契奇的三分很不穩定，容易失誤和疲勞，而且他這賽季也不夠大心臟。而且我覺得他應該開發出“一招鮮”，這個武器不能是撤步三分，免得像哈登一樣到了季后賽比賽的最后關頭就使不出力了。東契奇還有很大的進步空間。

[–]76ers dryingpan70 272 指標 19小時前

i dont think doncic will ever be dpoy level and everyone considered top 5 ever has that.

76人球迷：我覺得東契奇的防守到不了賽季最佳防守人這個級別，在大家心目中，歷史前五的球員可都是有這個水平的。

[–][CHI] Fred Hoiberg ZeusJuice 113 指標 18小時前

Magic Johnson has never even won an all defensive award and there are plenty that put him top 5.

公牛球迷：魔術師可從未拿過一次與整個賽季防守表現有關的獎項啊，可他還是很多人心中的歷史前五

[–]76ers dryingpan70 35 指標 18小時前

the one exception is magic and he didnt always need to be great on defense. even then, he could guard all 5 positions and could lock down when he needed to.

76人球迷：魔術師就是那個特例，他不需要總是在防守端做到很好。雖說他當年可以防遍每個位置，有需要的話還能鎖死對手。

[–]cihanbaskan 93 指標 15小時前

That s just false. He couldn t stay with PG s and the Lakers roster construction addressed this so he didn t have to.

這個純粹是偽結論。魔術師當時跟不上控衛的速度，而且湖人的陣容構造解決了這個問題，所以他就沒那個必要。

[–]WutUshouldHear 77 指標 21小時前

He needs to work on his 3 pt shooting and I m sure he will.

He s such a great player but he s 132nd right now in 3 pt shooting out of 145 qualified players and he s raised himself up to 132nd as he was lower a few games ago...

Luka is 6th in the league in 3 pt attempts per game and he s 132nd of 145 in 3 pt shooting so I d say that s something he can work on and I have no doubt he ll improve his 3 pt shooting as the years go by.

東契奇還需要加強三分投射，我相信他會這么做的。

他是個很強的球員，不過在145名有資格統計三分命中率的球員里，他目前排在第132位。就這個排名還是最近升起來的，因為他之前的命中率更低……

東契奇的場均三分出手次數排在聯盟第六，命中率卻在第132，所以我覺得這是他可以加強的。我毫不懷疑的是，隨著時間的推移，他的三分投射會增強。

[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-Bonsu freakypeteypablo 26 指標 20小時前

He’s got a good shot, and as a spot up shooter I think he could get close to 40% on threes. His problem is the step back threes that ruin his percentage. Similar to Harden.

猛龍球迷：東契奇是有籃子的，要是定點投的話，我覺得他的三分命中率能接近40%。倒是后撤步三分拉低了他的命中率，和哈登很像。

[–]Peanutslicker 59 指標 19小時前

I read somewhere he shoots like 38.5% on stepback 3 s but 28.5% on spot up 3 s

我在哪兒好像看過，他的撤步三分命中率好像是38.5%，定點三分則是28.5%

[–]Mavericks varroth 23 指標 19小時前

His step back three is actully his best shot % wise.

獨行俠球迷：其他他的撤步三分反倒是最準的

[–]Rockets bootyslap_ 33 指標 19小時前

Also like Harden haha

火箭球迷：也像哈登，哈哈哈

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[–]Lakers MMDroxy 3827 指標 22小時前

Really high praise from Jerry

湖人球迷：杰里-韋斯特說這話，那真是很高的評價了

[–]Lakers brikes 487 指標 22小時前

For the kids: This is the same man that brought Kobe to the Lakers

湖人球迷：給小學生普及下：就是這個男人把科比帶到了湖人

[–]Pelicans PrimeShaq 50 指標 21小時前

Had a hand in the Lakers dynasty and the GSW dynasty.

鵜鶘球迷：一手締造了湖人王朝和勇士王朝

[–]Clippers Demetrios1453 32 指標 20小時前

And although he is only a consultant with us, you know his words carry weight in our front office.

快船球迷：雖說他目前只是我們的“顧問”，要說他的話在我們管理層中的分量，那大家都懂

[–]baddimsim 21 指標 21小時前

God father of the NBA dynasties.

NBA各王朝球隊的教父

[–][CHI] Nazr Mohammed ThaBomb 607 指標 22小時前

The Logo might be the greatest executive in NBA history. And he’s saying that Luka is so special, he’ll be better than one of the 20 or so greatest players in the league’s history. That’s incredibly high praise for such a young player, but I definitely agree with it

公牛球迷：Logo男或許是聯盟史上最偉大的經理人。他說東契奇很特別，以后會躋身聯盟史上最強20人。對于這個如此年輕的球員而言，確實是相當高的褒獎，不過我肯定是同意的。

[–]Raptors itsasdf 63 指標 21小時前

If a guy like Jerry West says it, it has to be true.

猛龍球迷：如果是杰里-韋斯特這種人說的，那必須是事實。

[–]Clippers SuckMyLonzoBalls 27 指標 19小時前

That’s why I still hold out hope for Jerome Robinson.

快船球迷：所以我現在仍然對杰羅姆-羅賓遜抱有期望啊

[–]trelium06 12 指標 19小時前

What did he have to say about Mr Robinson?

韋斯特之前說羅賓遜啥了？

[–]Clippers Rupeslillo 9 指標 11小時前

He has incredible and unnecessary praises every time he brings Rome about in the discussion. Truly odd. For those who doesn t know, Jerry West pushed for him to be picked by the Clippers.

快船球迷：韋斯特每次聊到羅賓遜的時候都會有一番沒必要且讓人無法相信的稱贊。真的奇怪。給不知情的人普及下，是韋斯特推動快船選中他的

[–]bugaosuni 25 指標 18小時前

True enough, and The Logo is probably right in this case, But, he also wanted to draft Sidney Moncief instead of Magic Johnson.

確實，韋斯特這次說東契奇或許是對的，可是呢，當年也是他想選悉尼-蒙克利夫，而非魔術師的。

[–]The_Bard 23 指標 14小時前

To be fair I think people were a bit confused by a 6 9 pg in 1979

講真，我覺得在1979年，大家或許還對一個六尺九的控衛有點不解。

[–]Marchesk 45 指標 14小時前

Moncrief should be a HOF, and injuries hindered his career, but Magic was that special generational player. But Jerry s had 40 more years of experience since then.

蒙克利夫就該進名人堂啊，傷病影響了他的職業生涯，不過魔術師是那個劃時代的特殊球員?？墒悄?，自那之后，韋斯特又在聯盟多了40多年的閱歷。

[–]Nets TheRealSlimReaper35 517 指標 21小時前

Luka is pulling a 29 points triple double in his sophomore year, at 20 years old. You dont have to be jerry west to see it.

籃網球迷：東契奇在自己NBA二年級正打出場均29分的三雙成績，在20歲的年紀。他的厲害不需要韋斯特就看得出來吧

[–]Clippers SuckMyLonzoBalls 89 指標 19小時前

Tbf I thought Derrick Rose was gonna go down as an all time great after his MVP season. That dude was special before he got hurt. Hopefully Luka stays healthy.

快船球迷：講真，我一度以為羅斯在MVP賽季過后能一路成長為歷史頂級。那哥們兒受傷前真是非凡啊。希望東契奇能保持健康

[–][MIN] Kevin Garnett 891960 84 指標 19小時前

Luka s playing style isn t reckless, of course nothing is certain but the chances of injuries should be much less.

森林狼球迷：東契奇不是那種玩命打法，當然了，啥事也不能篤定，不過他受傷的概率應該會少很多。

[–]TooLegitToQuit9 49 指標 19小時前

Definitely. Luka plays more to the ground than any player that isn’t a big.

肯定的。在非內線球員里，東契奇是最地板流的。

[–]DnD4dena 57 指標 19小時前

If Jerry says something about a prospect or upcoming player, it is as good as gold

Dude knows talent when he sees it

Congrats on the HOF Luka

Im joking but seriously hes got insanely high potential

如果韋斯特評價了哪個新秀或者是希望之星，那真是金玉之言。

韋斯特看過之后就知道哪人天賦咋樣

提前祝賀東契奇入選名人堂

開玩笑，不過說真的，他的天賦確實很逆天

[–]comicbooksven 23 指標 11小時前

honestly he should have the HoF in the bag already. EuroLeague Champ, EuroLeague MVP. EuroBasket champ. ROTY, Top 5 MVP this year, he doesn t even need that much more to become a lock.

老實說，東契奇以后入選名人堂是沒跑了。歐洲聯賽冠軍、歐洲聯賽MVP、歐錦賽冠軍。年度最佳新秀，這賽季MVP候選人前五，他甚至再不用多大成就就能穩進名人堂了

[–]Grizzlies GT_86 6 指標 8小時前

I didnt know hof counted everything outside of the NBA. So it s basically all basketball things?

灰熊球迷：我之前都不知道名人堂還能算上NBA之外的成就。所以這個榮譽基本是基于所有籃球成績來評定的？

[–]comicbooksven 11 指標 7小時前

it s the basketball hall of fame not the nba hall of fame.

畢竟是籃球名人堂，不是NBA名人堂

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[–]Mavericks TheCocksmith 173 指標 20小時前

Wouldn t hurt for everyone to calm the fuck down.

Dirk was a game changer in his prime. Literally people changed the way they play basketball because of Dirk.

Luka is awesome, but I really think we re getting way ahead of ourselves.

獨行俠球迷：大家能不能先特么冷靜下

德克巔峰期是可以影響比賽的人物，基本是因為他，大家才改變了打籃球的方式。

東契奇是很強，不過我真覺得咱們不能過于夸張。

[–]Trail Blazers nightchurn 151 指標 19小時前

Have you watched Luka play?

As someone who watched Dirk play for 20 years, there is nothing hyperbolic or exaggerated about West’s commentary. Dirk is one of the greatest players ever, but for Luka to be this good already is insane.

開拓者球迷：你看過東契奇打球嗎？

我看德克打球看了20年，韋斯特的話沒有一點夸張。德克是史上最偉大的球員之一，不過東契奇現在就這么厲害，這已經很不可思議了。

[–]Lakers Mr_Alex19 81 指標 16小時前

Larry Bird called MJ, “God in a pair of Nikes” in his second year. Obviously not the same caliber player blah blah but it’s still worth noting how special Luka is.

湖人球迷：喬丹進入聯盟第二個賽季的時候，伯德稱之為“穿著耐克的上帝”。很顯然，東契奇和喬丹不是一個級別的，不過還是得注意到東契奇的非凡之處。

[–]Lakers b1indsamurai 147 指標 22小時前

Luka is currently averaging more points and assists than Dirk has every averaged in a season—as a 20 year old

He s a different beast

湖人球迷：東契奇目前的場均得分和助攻比德克職業生涯任何單賽季都高，而且他才20歲。

他就是個與眾不同的怪物

[–]boobaz0r 25 指標 19小時前

you mean Dirk as a PF as less Assists than Doncic as PG? wow you are a genius

要你告訴我德克打大前的助攻比打控衛的東契奇少？你可真是個天才

[–]Lakers 2nd_Tinder_Date 34 指標 17小時前

Dirk beat the 3 headed Heat and won a championship.

Luka is far from Dirk

湖人球迷：德克可是擊敗過三巨頭熱火拿過總冠軍的

東契奇離他還差得遠

[–]Trail Blazers frecklie 16 指標 12小時前

And swept the defending champion Lakers

開拓者球迷：而且德克還率隊橫掃了衛冕冠軍湖人

[–]Mavericks Dallas_FC 220 指標 23小時前

Luka has a long way to go to beat Dirks legacy.

獨行俠球迷：東契奇要想超越德克的成就，要走的路還很長。

[–]Second_Rate_Sorcerer 82 指標 22小時前

Dirk led Mavs to 50+ wins and deep playoff runs for over a decade in a very deep Western Conference.

在競爭異常激烈的西部，德克有十多年都能率隊取得常規賽50+勝場，并在季后賽走到很遠。

[–]Lakers erizzluh 51 指標 22小時前

and luka could leave the mavs at any point. it s already rare as hell for players to stay on the same team for their whole career, which makes dirk s career so much more special. you even hear the stories about how kobe almost left the lakers or duncan almost left the spurs, and dirk s tenure with the mavs gotta mean somethiing

湖人球迷：況且東契奇或許會在任何時候離開獨行俠。一個球員整個職業生涯都待在同一個隊，這種情況本就極其稀少了，這就顯得德克的生涯要特殊得多得多。咱們甚至都聽過科比差點離開湖人和鄧肯差點離開馬刺的故事，那德克在獨行俠的堅守自然是意義非凡啊

[–]Mavericks 281-330-80-04 23 指標 18小時前

If money has anything to do with it, Cuban will never, ever let Luka leave.

獨行俠球迷：如果是因為錢的問題，那庫班是絕不會放走東契奇的。

[–]kirashira 18 指標 18小時前

When Real Madrid joins the NBA in five years Luka is gonna leave the Mavs.

等到五年后皇馬進入NBA，那東契奇就要離開獨行俠咯

[–]Lakers MightBeJerryWest 44 指標 22小時前

Okay but I don’t think Dirk would even take issue with this. It’s not hard to see the raw talent that’s in Luka.

Dirk is a piece of Mavs history. Luka is very talented. The two can both be true.

湖人球迷：行了，我覺得德克甚至都不會對韋斯特的話有意見?？吹綎|契奇身上與生俱來的才華并不難。

德克是獨行俠歷史的一部分，東契奇則很有天賦。這兩點都是事實。

[–][LAL] Marcelo Huertas henstobs11 1992 指標 22小時前

Gonna be hard to surpass what Dirk has achieved. Of course we all know Luka s ceiling is higher than Dirk s, but getting there and actually living up to that top 10 all time potential is extremely hard.

Luka s off to a good start tho

湖人球迷：東契奇要想超越德克的成就還是非常難的。當然了，咱們都知道東契奇的上限是比德克高的，不過要想完全兌現天賦、實打實的打出歷史前十的潛力，這是極為困難的。

不過東契奇現在這個開頭不錯

[–]76ers KagsTheoneAndOnly 759 指標 22小時前

Agreed.

a good start is an understatement though lol, he s having possibly the greatest 20 year old season ever

76人球迷：同意。說他開頭不錯都是謙虛，哈哈，他現在這個表現或許是史上最強20歲球員。

[–]Pistons drcash360-2ndaccount 87 指標 21小時前

Averaging a 30 pt triple double in year 2 is a hell of a start. He can only go up. He’s going to win a few MVPs and maybe championships when he hits his prime

活塞球迷：進入聯盟第二年就場均30分的三雙，這開局無敵好嘛！他只會往上走。等他進入巔峰期的時候，他會拿幾次MVP的，甚至還能有冠軍。

[–]Rockets BKChickenTenders1 45 指標 21小時前

This stuff annoys me. Did everyone forget about Dirk’s run in 2011 to beat the Heat? Luka definitely HAS the potential to pass dirk, but let’s not act like it’s a given.

火箭球迷：這種鬼話煩得很。難道大家都忘了德克在2011年帶隊擊敗熱火的神勇表現嗎？東契奇肯定是有超越德克的潛力的，可咱也不能把這當做是板上釘釘啊。

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[–]Fuzzy Algae 169 指標 22小時前

lol and teams passed on this guy. Unbelievable. Its why the bottom dwellers stay at the bottom.

哈哈哈，居然還有球隊選秀的時候不選他。不可思議啊。所以說有些爛隊就活該爛

[–]Mavericks cannotthinkofarandom 85 指標 22小時前

People were afraid he d be a Darko ... Sorry old Pistons fans.

獨行俠球迷：很多人擔心他會成為米利西奇唄……對不住了，老活塞球迷

[–]Sweatytubesock 52 指標 19小時前

Anyone who thought that is a moron who shouldn’t have a job in an NBA front office.

誰要是這么想真是個廢柴，那就不該在NBA球隊管理層工作

[–]Kings TheRedditoristo 997 指標 22小時前

sunuvabitch....

國王球迷：日了狗了……

[–][LAL] Shaquille O Neal GoSuckYouMudda 448 指標 22小時前

It’s Ok I guarantee Suns fans are saying the same thing

湖人球迷：沒事的，我相信太陽球迷也會這么說的

[–]Warriors LeftyMcLeftFace 37 指標 17小時前

No they still think they made the right move taking Ayton lol

勇士球迷：不啊，人家到現在都覺得選艾頓是正確操作，哈哈哈

[–]Suns Chelseaiscool 6 指標 12小時前

Then those fans are morons.

太陽球迷：那種球迷就是蠢

[–]Suns CSPmyHart 5 指標 11小時前

There s lots of us that wanted Doncic over him and still obviously do.

太陽球迷：我們太陽球迷里有很多人當時是更想要東契奇的，現在也是

[–]Knicks ReallyF33lingIt 12 指標 10小時前

I was so shocked he fell below 1. I understood the buzz with Ayton but it seemed like this entire sub was talking about how Luka was already cooking grown ass men in a professional league for years at that point.

Maybe we are actually better than journalists.

尼克斯球迷：東契奇當時沒成為狀元我是蠻震驚的，艾頓的呼聲我也能理解，不過當時貌似整個論壇都在說，東契奇已經在職業聯賽如何如何用實力碾壓一幫老男人。

或許我們確實比記者還有眼光。

[–]76ers Los_Ingobernablez 45 指標 14小時前

The suns move was forgivable but the kings picking bagley was just a trying to look cool move.

76人球迷：太陽的操作還是情有可原，可是國王選擇巴格利真就是裝X了。

[–]Lakers theDecbb 23 指標 20小時前

i cant believe u guys passed up on him. like WTF were u thinking

湖人球迷：國王居然不要東契奇，我真是不敢信。這特么是在想啥呢

[–]Kerbonaut2019 41 指標 11小時前

A lot of NBA fans saw it coming at draft time too.. obviously not that Luka would become a superstar so quickly but that he was clearly the best prospect in the draft. His European accomplishments at his age should have been more than enough for him to go #1. Passing on him for Bagley is soo frustrating in hindsight.

很多NBA球迷在當時選秀期間就預見到了……很顯然，這倒不是說我們當初覺得他會立馬成為超巨，而是他當時就明顯是那屆新秀里最強的。

他那個年紀在歐洲取得那么大的成就，這就足以保證當選狀元了。不要他而選巴格利，現在看真的是難受。

[–]Kings GLeeRizzle 19 指標 10小時前

I’m a Kings fan and Duke fan for college. Loved watching him in college, but let me tell you, I was PISSED when we took Bagley. I remember the conversation I had over the phone with my dad (another diehard) that night. “I like Bagley, I think he’ll make an all star team at some point in his career... I just think Luka will be in the hall of fame one day and we passed on him.” Really wish that was one of my takes that didn’t come to fruition

國王球迷：我是國王球迷，大學球隊喜歡的是杜克。那會兒就喜歡看巴格利打球，不過我跟你說啊，當初我們選巴格利的時候我氣得要死。記得我當天晚上和我爸（死忠粉）聊天的時候說，“我喜歡巴格利，我覺得他將來會進入全明星……可我就是覺得東契奇總有一天會進入名人堂，我們卻錯過了他。”真希望當初我這個話沒有成真啊。

[–]Big_Balmer_Brand 321 指標 22小時前

Would ve been absolutely insane if Kings drafted Luka. Basketball would run through California - all 4 of those teams, healthy, would be playoff contenders; 3 out of 4 title contenders

國王要是選了東契奇那真就逆天了。那籃球界就得由加州話事了——加州全部四支球隊，保持健康的話，都能進季后賽，有三支更是爭冠球隊。

[–][PHI] Ben Simmons FreshwaterBeach 144 指標 20小時前

3 out of 4 title contenders

I can t work out which team you re disrespecting here.

76人球迷：四支球隊有三支能爭冠，我倒是想知道你在瞧不起哪個隊。

[–]Big_Balmer_Brand 122 指標 20小時前

Kings without Luka are not title contenders right now. Biggest reason, because Luke is nowhere as good of a coach as Carlisle.

沒東契奇的國王現在就不是爭冠球隊啊。最大的原因是沃頓連卡萊爾尾燈都看不到

[–]Warriors NephewChaps 48 指標 18小時前

you re saying Kings with Carlisle would be contenders right now? lol. Biggest and only reason is Luka Doncic.

勇士球迷：你的意思是要是國王有卡萊爾現在能爭冠了？哈哈哈，最大且唯一的原因在于東契奇

[–]jballer21 22 指標 14小時前

I think you re underselling Carlisle a little bit here. No he s not pop level great but he took some scraggly teams to the playoffs and won a title toward the end of most of his players careers. Like other than jjb who had an above average season after 2011. I think the kings at least make the playoffs without Luka, they get real good with him

我覺得你有點小瞧卡萊爾的作用了。是，他確實還沒波波那么厲害，不過他當初可是把一些組織散亂的球隊帶進過季后賽的，而且還在手下隊員大多進入生涯暮年的時候，率隊拿過冠軍的。那支小牛隊里，除了巴里亞，有誰在11年奪冠之后打出的水準是高于過往平均水準之上的。我覺得即便沒有東契奇，卡萊爾至少也能帶國王進季后賽，他的作用很大的。

[–]Mavericks Taiga_Chan 15 指標 12小時前

He is pop lvl great imo he had really shit teams last couple of years and people forgot about rick

獨行俠球迷：我覺得卡萊爾不比波波差，他過去幾年帶的隊確實是很菜的，很多人就此忘了他。

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